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Marcel Haenggi

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There were interesting systems of direct use of hydro power at Lake of Zurich (and probably elsewhere) in late 19th century. In the heights close to the villages there were little artificial lakes ("Weiher") which provided a network of pipelines with high pressure water. Any factory or crafts workshop in the village could get connected to the system for a fee. The water than powered the machines. On sundays when factories did not work, the water was used for waterspou fountains, some of which still are active today or have been re-established (e.g. in Richterswil: http://www.fontaene.ch/typo3temp/pics/5f7b1245bd.jpg ; http://www.fontaene.ch/typo3temp/pics/a70c569059.jpg ; http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5106/5628095345_7e53a35a78_z.jpg).

Alfred Max Hofbauer

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Hi Kris!

A flow of water through a pipe is as much energy as a flow of electrons in a wire. There is no compelling reason why it shouldn´t be possible to have a lamp working on waterpower... or on compressed air, mechanical work, etc.
The method has not been developed yet, but it should proove interesting to do so...

Matthias

(3)

Nice article about rotary hydropower.

i was swimming in the lake today. In the bath the have a small lift. It is used to lift handicapped people in and out the water. The lift is powered with water from a garden hose. Basically the lift is an hydraulic cylinder with two valves and a chair attached to it.

Many machines use hydraulic or pneumatic cylinders. Electric cylinders are still expensive. With hydraulic cylinders we can power lifts, rams, scissors, presses, dumpers, gates, cranes and much more.
Many tools are still operated pneumatically which is the most expensive form of energy. £he could be constructed to run with water.

Look at modern construction machines like an excavator. The diesel prime mover is powering the hydraulics. The caterpillars are powered by hydraulic motors and all the rest by hydraulic cylinders. If we have enough pressure it should be possible to convert a machine from oil hydraulic to water. With a flexible hose it would be possible to operate construction machines. Houses bridges and tunnels could be built just with water hydraulics.

Kris De Decker

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@ Marcel: That's correct. These and other systems will be discussed in the next post.

@ Alfred: Interesting. I thought that a light bulb required electricity. An LED does for sure, because its operation is based on moving electrons. The same goes for computerchips. Whatever power source you use, you will always have to convert the energy to electricity. Are non-LED light bulbs different?

@ Matthias: Exactly. See upcoming post.

Alfred Max Hofbauer

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Any kind of energy can be transformed into any other kind... Here is a list of the known types: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_light_sources
I´ve been trying sonoluminescence and triboluminescence (even into the X-ray spectrum).
A friend of mine made a "hydraulic LED", years ago, drilling a T-junction of hydraulic lines into a block of clear plexiglass. It lit only when the flow ran in one direction.

Laurent S

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There is a loss when you produce electricity, but you can use electricity anywhere. Direct hydropower means that you have to carry the wood, the seeds,... to the hydropower plant, and then you will also lose a lot of energy. So the ratio win/loss is more complex to calculate.

Paul

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Did you know that electric motors are the single biggest users of electricity in the world; using almost half of all of the world's electricity. I would agree with you that, in some instances, using mechanical energy from a turbine/waterwheel to generate electricity to power a motor and turn the energy back into mechanicl energy is slightly stupid. However, I would add that, in my opinion, this mechanical energy might not be as easy to transmit as electricity over distances of more than several metres or to serve multiply users at once and inconsistent load that are continually coming on and offline and/or changing speeds. The resaon why I think that most hydropower projects are for hydroelectricity is be more flexible and possibly user friendly because a river won't light your house and you can't recharge a cellphone with a stream

Drake

(8)

Water wheels are great but not everyone has a stream and a good head of water. A deep well and a small head of water can be used to compress air in a "trompe". Bubbles flow down and are compressed and captured in an air chamber. The deeper the well the higher the pressure. The greater the head the faster the flow. Compressed air is versatile and since it is expensive if produced by electricity a deep well trompe might be worth drilling.

Attila

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electricity won the role of the transportation of energy, not the production of it, as is shown with small hydro energy too

with the image above, in the article, we are locked having a stream with a given head fall and water amount, which may not be accessible where it just needed - the wire can be used to transport it to the right location, time, and size

however, i like the idea for direct mechanical use of water energia, but rather as energy storage, than energy production

so, i have an intermittern energy source, let it be an own wind mill, off-peak grid electrical energy, or a combuston engine running on wood gas

i can use the mechanical primary energy to pump up water to give it a height based energy, and then when i use it, release it down, through water wheels, either reproducing electricity again, or use it directly

j walker

(10)

You may be interested in this:

http://ludens.cl/paradise/turbine/turbine.html

he's a retired Electrical Engineer living in Chile who set up his own 4kw hydro plant essentially from scratch with help from 2 or 3 other people. It's pretty amazing.

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